[WSMDiscuss] The US in movement…. : President’s criticisms spark more protests at NFL games (Arnie Stapleton) / By sparking national anthem debate, Trump divides and conquers (Cathal Kelly) / Real patriotism, Mr. Trump, isn’t how you treat a flag. It’s how you treat Americans (Sarah Kendzior)

JS CACIM jai.sen at cacim.net
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Monday, September 25, 2017

The US in movement….

[So the US President has now taken the battle out into the gladiator arenas, and attacked some of the most popular icons in US society.  And where even sports writers are now writing about this game, and not the game they normally write about….

[When the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused last year to stand during the anthem as a protest of police treatment of minorities, it was a one-man stand.  Yesterday, it was a 200-man stand, and in front of – and in the face of - millions upon millions of spectators – and where surely, and though the commentators don't say anything about this, some of them also took a stand, along with their icons.  The views below are divided, and two writers suggest that the President’s actions will only serve to divide ‘the public’.  That remains to be seen.  But could this, precisely because of the arena in which Trump now performed, be one of those turning points ?  Where as one writer has so brilliantly said, “And you can already see everyone rethinking which team they're on” ? 

[Check out the photos at :
In photos: NFL players kneel or lock arms in unity during national anthem <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/nfl-players-kneel-or-lock-arms-in-unity-during-national-anthem/article36376489/>
President’s criticisms spark more protests at NFL games

Arnie Stapleton, The Associated Press

By sparking national anthem debate, Trump divides and conquers

Cathal Kelly, The Globe and Mail

Real patriotism, Mr. Trump, isn’t how you treat a flag. It’s how you treat Americans

Sarah Kendzior

Sarah Kendzior :

When Mr. Kaepernick takes a knee, when Mr. Curry refuses to visit the White House, I greet these actions with gratitude. When their fellow athletes – like Richard Sherman, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James – back them, risking similar condemnation, I feel relief that they too refuse to tolerate abuse of citizens by the state. The real measure of patriotism is not how you treat a flag but how you treat your countrymen.

Where a conscience should reside in our capital is instead a well of hate and bigotry. We will not find moral leadership in this White House, but we can find it among Americans – ordinary citizens and celebrities alike – who reject pageantry in favour of principle.

Arnie Stapleton :

The issue reverberated across the Atlantic, where about two dozen players took a knee during the playing of the U.S. anthem at Wembley Stadium.

“We stand with our brothers,” Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs said. “They have the right and we knelt with them today. To protest, non-violent protest, is as American as it gets, so we knelt with them today to let them know that we’re a unified front.”

Cathal Kelly :

Now fully emboldened, Mr. Trump has turned his rhetorical cannons on the last thing that bound Americans of all political stripes: sports. And you can already see everyone rethinking which team they're on.

            JS




President’s criticisms spark more protests at NFL games

By Arnie Stapleton, The Associated Press                                               

Posted Sep 24, 2017 at 2:45 PM Updated at 12:16 AM
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President Donald Trump’s criticism of players who kneel during the national anthem sparked angry protests around the National Football League Sunday, as about 200 players sat, knelt or raised their fists in defiance.

A week ago, just six players protested.

Most NFL players on Sunday locked arms with their teammates ” some standing, others kneeling ” in a show of solidarity. A handful of teams stayed off the field until after “The Star-Spangled Banner” to avoid the issue altogether.

As he prepared to board Air Force One to return to Washington from New Jersey, Trump said the players protesting the anthem were “very disrespectful to our country” and called again on owners to stop what he considers unpatriotic displays in America’s most popular sport.

“This has nothing to do with race,” Trump said. “This has to do with respect for our country.”

The president’s attack on athletes turned the anthems ” usually sung during commercials ” into must-watch television shown live by the networks and Yahoo!, which streamed the game in London. In some NFL stadiums, crowds booed or yelled at players to stand. There was also some applause.

The NFL and its players, often at odds, used Sunday’s anthems to show unity. One of Trump’s biggest supporters in the NFL, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, joined the chorus when he expressed “deep disappointment” with Trump.

“I like Bob very much. He’s my friend. He gave me a Super Bowl ring a month ago. So he’s a good friend of mine and I want  him to do what he wants to do,” Trump said. ”... We have great people representing our country, especially our soldiers our first responders and they should be treated with respect.

“And when you get on your knee and you don’t respect the American flag or the anthem.”

The protests started more than a year ago when former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refused to stand during the anthem as a protest of police treatment of minorities. This season, no team has signed him, and some supporters believe NFL owners are avoiding him because of the controversy.

A handful of white players didn’t stand Sunday, but the vast majority of those actively protesting were black.

Defensive star Von Miller was among the large group of Denver Broncos who took a knee in Buffalo Sunday, where Bills running back LeSean McCoy stretched during the anthem.

“We felt like President Trump’s speech was an assault on our most cherished right, freedom of speech,” said Miller, who normally steers clear of politics and social issues.

Dozens of more players protested before the Raiders-Redskins game, the final one of the day and not far from the White House in Landover, Maryland. All but a handful of Raiders sat on their bench and seven Redskins took a knee while their teammates stood arm-in-arm along with owner Dan Snyder and president Bruce Allen.

In Chicago, the Pittsburgh Steelers stayed in the tunnel except for one player, Army veteran Alejandro Villanueva, who stood outside with a hand over his heart. Both the Seahawks and Titans stayed inside until after the national anthem was over in Nashville, a throwback to the pre-2009 NFL when teams, not the league, set pre-game policy regarding players standing on the sideline for the anthem.

A handful of NFL players had been continuing Kaepernick’s protest this season, but that ballooned Sunday following Trump’s two-day weekend rant. It began with the president calling for NFL protesters to be fired and continued Saturday when he rescinded a White House invitation for the NBA champion Golden State Warriors over star Stephen Curry’s criticism.

The president’s delving into the NFL protests started by Kaepernick brought new attention and angered many players who took one insult as a personal attack on their mothers.

“Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, you’d say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired,’” Trump said to loud applause Friday night at a rally in Huntsville, Alabama.

“I’m a son of a queen,” Falcons defensive lineman Grady Jarrett said.

Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady was among the New England Patriots who locked arms in solidarity in Foxborough, Massachusetts. Aaron Rodgers did the same with his teammates in Green Bay.

“Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!” Trump tweeted Sunday.

In Detroit, anthem singer Rico Lavelle took a knee at the word “brave,” lowering his head and raising his right fist. In Nashville, anthem singer Meghan Linsey, took a knee as she finished singing.

Jets Chairman and CEO Christopher Johnson, whose brother, Woody, is the ambassador to England and one of Trump’s most ardent supporters, called it “an honor and a privilege to stand arm-in-arm unified with our players during today’s national anthem” in East Rutherford, New Jersey.

The issue reverberated across the Atlantic, where about two dozen players took a knee during the playing of the U.S. anthem at Wembley Stadium.

“We stand with our brothers,” Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs said. “They have the right and we knelt with them today. To protest, non-violent protest, is as American as it gets, so we knelt with them today to let them know that we’re a unified front.”

Jaguars owner Shad Khan and players on both teams who were not kneeling remained locked arm-in-arm throughout the playing of the anthem and “God Save The Queen.” No players knelt during the British anthem.

“Me taking a knee doesn’t change the fact that I support our military, I’m a patriot and I love my country,” Bills linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said. “But I also recognize there are some social injustices in this country and today I wanted to take a knee in support of my brothers who have been doing it.”

Alexander said he’ll go back to standing for the anthem next week.

“I just wanted to show them that I was with them today, especially in the backdrop of our president making the comments about our players, about their mothers,” Alexander said. “And then you put that in conjunction with how he tried to gray-area Nazism and KKK members as being fine people, I had to take a knee.”

The National Hockey League’s reigning champion Pittsburgh Penguins announced Sunday they’ve accepted a White House invitation from Trump. The Penguins said they respect the office of the president and “the long tradition of championship team visiting the White House.”

Before Game 1 of the WNBA Finals in Minneapolis on Sunday, the Los Angeles Sparks left the floor while the Minnesota Lynx stood arm-in-arm. The Sparks returned to a chorus of boos when the song was finished.

Trump also mocked the league’s crackdown on illegal hits, suggesting the league had softened because of its safety initiatives.

Kahn, who was among the NFL owners who chipped in $1 million to the Trump inauguration committee, said he met with his team captains before kickoff in London “to express my support for them, all NFL players and the league following the divisive and contentious remarks made by President Trump.”

Among the strongest criticisms of the president Sunday was this from Saints coach Sean Payton: “I’m disappointed in the comments that were made. I think we need a little bit more wisdom in that office,” he said of the White House. “I want that guy to be one of the smarter guys in the room and it seems like every time he’s opening up his mouth it’s something that is dividing our country and not pulling us together.”

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AP Sports Writers Dennis Waszak Jr., Steve Reed, Larry Lage, Teresa M. Walker, John Wawrow and Stephen Whyno and Associated Press Writer Zac Boyer contributed.

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Opinion
By sparking national anthem debate, Trump divides and conquers

  <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/authors/cathal-kelly>
Cathal Kelly <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/authors/cathal-kelly>
TORONTO
2 hours ago September 24, 2017

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/trump-v-sports-a-fascinating-crack-in-americas-great-schism-but-to-what-end/article36377741/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com& <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/trump-v-sports-a-fascinating-crack-in-americas-great-schism-but-to-what-end/article36377741/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&>
When Donald Trump won the U.S. election last November, the American sports establishment got down in a protective crouch.

Few athletes said anything about the new President. The bold-faced names held their powder.

Vaguely famous Tampa Bay Buccaneers receiver Mike Evans was one of the few dissenters, beginning his own anthem protest.

Read more: As Trump takes aim at professional athletes, sports world responds <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/as-trump-takes-aim-at-professional-athletes-sports-worldresponds/article36376675/>
Opinion: Real patriotism, Mr. Trump, isn't how you treat a flag. It's how you treat Americans <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/real-patriotism-mr-trump-isnt-how-you-treat-a-flag-its-how-you-treat-americans/article36375796/>
In photos: NFL players kneel or lock arms in unity during national anthem <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/nfl-players-kneel-or-lock-arms-in-unity-during-national-anthem/article36376489/>
"I'm not gonna stand for somebody I don't believe in," Mr. Evans said.

The protest didn't get far. Within a few days, Mr. Evans walked the whole thing back and issued the usual "sorry for offending you" boilerplate.

The thinking at the time seemed to be that as long as Mr. Trump stayed in his corner, the sporting fraternity would remain in its own. The players were still thinking like human brands, and Republicans buy sneakers, too.

That changed this weekend. Mr. Trump's comments about owners firing players who kneel during the national anthem prompted a huge increase in such protests during Sunday's games. Hundreds of NFLers sat or kneeled or raised their fists.

Whatever equilibrium might have existed has been tipped over because Trump is Trump. His raison d'être is provocation.

All it took was a few rambling sentences and an early morning message on social media to radicalize a good portion of two major sports leagues.

Mr. Trump's "son of a bitch" comment about kneelers and his disinviting of the NBA-champion Golden State Warriors have brought the NFL and NBA closer to open war with him. But that war has many fronts, and not all of them extend outward.

By early Sunday afternoon, you could see a shift under way. The smattering of dissenters has become a large crowd, though it remains conspicuously racially divided.

Dozens of players kneeled before a Jacksonville-Baltimore game held at London's Wembley Stadium. Fewer than half of the Denver Broncos stood for The Star-Spangled Banner.

Later, the Pittsburgh Steelers announced they would not be coming out of their locker room until after the anthem had been played.

"People shouldn't have to choose," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin told CBS. "If a guy feels the need to do something, he shouldn't be separated from his teammate who chooses not to."

In other words, we don't want the players seeing who their enemies are.

(Contrast that Solomonesque approach with the Stanley Cup-champion Pittsburgh Penguins' bafflingly timed announcement that they are still going to visit the White House. Whoever decided that this Sunday was a good time to put out that news release ought to have his hands broken with a hammer, lest they type again. And if anyone still doubts that this dispute is racial, the NHL has foolishly highlighted that for them.)

This ground has been shifting for some time, but it's now tectonic and unpredictable. Trump v. Sports becomes the most fascinating crack in America's great schism. But to what end?

The knee-jerk here is to say, 'What a mistake Trump's made. He's finally picked on the wrong guys!' I doubt it.

Whenever the world gets too real, Mr. Trump picks a diversionary spat. The more celebrated and less consequential the foil, the better for Mr. Trump. Hollywood hacks work best. Athletes are nearly as good.

Mr. Trump gets to burnish his anti-elite credentials while drawing attention away from the country's actual problems. It's a sick narrative of decline enthusiastically endorsed by the left.

Mr. Trump yells at them. They go to the Emmys and yell at him. Everyone gets on Twitter to gorge on loneliness and rage, while feeling smug about their right thinking.

Will sports stars be drawn into this merry-go-round of hate, with just as little effect? However much you'd like the answer to be 'No', you know from recent experience that it's probably, 'Yes'.

I'm sure it felt good for basketball star LeBron James to call Mr. Trump "a bum" on Twitter. He had good reason.

But what's the next move? Because name-calling is not going to get anything done. Skipping the White House invite will not effect change. And once taking a knee becomes ubiquitous, it will also become meaningless.

Gestures are useful political tools only so long as they maintain the ability to shock. The idea that basketball players do not like Mr. Trump is already a banal truism. It doesn't move anyone on either side of the line.

If players believe fans must choose between the sports they follow and Mr. Trump, they're wrong. People have a remarkable ability to maintain a cognitive dissonance if doing so brings them pleasure. Plenty of Americans will continue to watch playoff basketball and vote for Mr. Trump, and never feel the least bit conflicted about it.

No American is going to allow politics to ruin football. It's the closest thing they still have to a shared culture. Once that goes, they'll be digging trenches along the Mason-Dixon line.

Meanwhile, you can already see the counter-revolt fomenting. When New England Patriots' players took a knee on Sunday, their own fans booed them. Broncos lineman Derek Wolfe put out a statement protesting the protests, saying in part, "if you don't think we are the greatest country in the world … then why do you stay?"

This thing is going from a small, highly motivated group of player-protesters tolerated by the apolitical remainder, to two camps divided by geography, class and, largely, race.

If it's possible that Mr. Trump will be undone by the righteous Instagramming of Mr. James et al, it's just as conceivable that the leagues will spend three years putting aside their 'Hey, we're all the same because we're all here to get super-rich' ethos and spend it tearing one another down instead.

Despite all the high-fiving on the left, Mr. Trump won this round. This is what he does: set people against each other.

How they react to his incitement isn't the point. It's chaos for chaos's sake. We've already seen this contagion affect the American polity and most of its cultural bulwarks. But those were already going sideways. Until recently, the NFL and NBA were stable institutions that promoted an idealized vision of American unity.

Now fully emboldened, Mr. Trump has turned his rhetorical cannons on the last thing that bound Americans of all political stripes: sports. And you can already see everyone rethinking which team they're on.



NFL players defiant after Trump's boycott remarks (Reuters)


Opinion
Real patriotism, Mr. Trump, isn’t how you treat a flag. It’s how you treat Americans


Sarah Kendzior
Special to The Globe and Mail
17 hours ago September 24, 2017

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/real-patriotism-mr-trump-isnt-how-you-treat-a-flag-its-how-you-treat-americans/article36375796/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com& <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/real-patriotism-mr-trump-isnt-how-you-treat-a-flag-its-how-you-treat-americans/article36375796/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&>

Sarah Kendzior is a St. Louis, Mo.-based commentator who writes about politics, the economy and media

As the United States coped with ceaseless natural disasters, North Korea announced its intent to annihilate the United States, and the Russian interference investigation ushered in more damning revelations, President Trump spoke out on what he seemingly felt was a great national crisis:

"If a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL, or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect our Great American Flag (or Country) and should stand for the National Anthem," he tweeted on Saturday. "If not, YOU'RE FIRED. Find something else to do!"

By now, we know the routine. When Mr. Trump is flailing, he creates a battle between himself and a celebrity – a tempest in a teapot to divert attention from, say, the literal tempest that nearly swallowed Puerto Rico, and his dereliction of duty in addressing it. In the past, Mr. Trump has attacked Mika Brzezinski, Meryl Streep and others to try to change the subject from catastrophes he either created or failed to remedy.

Cathal Kelly: Trump v. Sports: A fascinating crack in America's great schism. But to what end? <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/trump-v-sports-a-fascinating-crack-in-americas-great-schism-but-to-what-end/article36377741/>
Read more: As Trump takes aim at professional athletes, sports world responds <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/as-trump-takes-aim-at-professional-athletes-sports-worldresponds/article36376675/>
In photos: NFL players kneel or lock arms in unity during national anthem <https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/sports/nfl-players-kneel-or-lock-arms-in-unity-during-national-anthem/article36376489/>
The President's attack on Colin Kaepernick – a black football player who refuses to stand for the national anthem as a show of protest against systemic racism and police brutality – is yet another attempt of Mr. Trump's to distract the public from his failures, but this particular battle has more at stake. On the same day, the President tweeted that Steph Curry, who had already stated he wouldn't be attending the White House - standard for NBA champions - would no longer be invited.

By attacking these athletes, Mr. Trump is launching a referendum on patriotism, race, and what it means to be a good American in a nation led by a man who praises dictators and refuses to outright denounce white supremacists.

America has wrestled with hypocrisy ever since it was birthed by slave-owning founders who wrote searing declarations of freedom. But never has the gulf between the hallowed position of the presidency and the hollowness of the person who inhabits it been as wide as it is today. And never has Mr. Trump faced a foe like Mr. Kaepernick, whose silent protests hit harder than any of the President's tirades because they force Americans to contend not only with complicity, but complacency. If Mr. Kaepernick can live his values, destroying his popularity and football career in the process, why can't we all? If we have freedom of speech, who will we speak up for?

Mr. Kaepernick kneels for the slain and for the suffering, and places that burden on the conscience of Americans in an era where the very notion of a conscience is spun as an alternative fact. While Mr. Trump brags of his wealth while stiffing charities and swindling the poor, Mr. Kaepernick has spent a year giving away one million dollars to help oppressed communities. While the President's life has been spent desperately accumulating status markers and elite approval, Mr. Kaepernick is, at age 29, seemingly unemployable due to his controversial political views.

And what are those controversial views? That black men should not be shot on sight by white officers that get away with it. That black citizens should have the same rights, respect and access to resources as white citizens. That the U.S. flag is not worth saluting until there is liberty and justice for all.

That these views are considered controversial is a damning indictment of the inability of Americans to be reflective instead of defensive about our systemic failings. Traditionally, when an athlete takes a knee, he does so in acknowledgment of a wounded player. Colin Kaepernick takes the knee during the national anthem in acknowledgment of wounded citizens. He demands, rightly, that Americans do better.

I am writing this from St. Louis, a city where a white police officer was recently acquitted of first degree murder after proclaiming on video that he intended to kill a black man and then did so. My city is filled with masses of protesters and with police bearing military weapons, who now gloat that the streets are theirs. My city is full of mourners, because we've seen it all before, and because we know, under this administration, we will see state-sanctioned injustice again and again.

When Mr. Kaepernick takes a knee, when Mr. Curry refuses to visit the White House, I greet these actions with gratitude. When their fellow athletes – like Richard Sherman, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James – back them, risking similar condemnation, I feel relief that they too refuse to tolerate abuse of citizens by the state. The real measure of patriotism is not how you treat a flag but how you treat your countrymen.

Where a conscience should reside in our capital is instead a well of hate and bigotry. We will not find moral leadership in this White House, but we can find it among Americans – ordinary citizens and celebrities alike – who reject pageantry in favour of principle.



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