[WSMDiscuss] where's the global social movement? (Moscow interview)

Tord Björk tord.bjork at gmail.com
Wed Jun 10 09:51:39 CEST 2020

Most welcome, The strength in the coming international ass mobilization for
alternatiuves might come from somewhere else then most people think. Before
commenting questions regarding the abbreviations:

IP I suppose is international patent but what is 4IR?

Tord Björk

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:39 AM Patrick Bond <pbond at mail.ngo.za> wrote:

> I'm not sure why, but when I was in Moscow at the end of February (for a
> People's Friendship University academic conference
> <http://africa.rudn.ru/>), a chat I had with a popular lefty interviewer,
> Konstantin Syomin, was aired on Youtube, and it received 820 000 views in
> its Russian translation
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWTbvgVOnn0&feature=youtu.be>.
>     Yesterday, Syomin's show released the original English version
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwTPwml2SBY>. There's discussion in this
> interview about:
>    - the 'creative destruction' of capitalism now underway, what with the
>    business cycle already heading into recession and debt crises before
>    Covid-19 hit;
>    - the IP war and need to decommodify medicines;
>    - climate catastrophe and the failure of ecological-modernisation
>    strategies - especially carbon trading - in contrast to command-and-control
>    in the form of the UN's 1987 banning of CFCs to halt ozone hole growth;
>    - capitalist crisis tendencies towards overproduction and
>    financialisation;
>    - capital's spatial fix, in the form of imperialism, and Rosa
>    Luxemburg's view of capitalist/non-capitalist relations;
>    - limits now clearly emerging in these crisis-displacement strategies;
>    - Keynes' 1930s formula for state-led economic reflation and social
>    democracy;
>    - the contemporary collapse of global governance, and the BRICS as a
>    false hope for an alternative;
>    - Russian firms' abuse in Southern Africa (Evraz Highveld steel,
>    Rosatom nuclear, VTB banking in Mozambique, Rostec platinum in Zimbabwe);
>    - BRICS contradictions such as IMF/UNFCCC/WTO assimilation,
>    extractivism, super-exploitation, centrifugal economic processes and
>    internecine geopolitical divisions under Putin's 2020 lead;
>    - Lenin's perspective on Cecil Rhodes and the labour aristocracy's
>    xenophobia;
>    - the 4IR threat to the international proletariat;
>    - the unprecedented rise of world civil unrest in 2019 - but the lack
>    of political ideology in these protests and need for a larger-scale
>    eco-socialist theory;
>    - the World Social Forum's decade of internationalism before social
>    movements faded and the reformist-NGO rot set in, and the limits of the
>    Arab Spring and anarchist/autonomist Occupy;
>    - the difficulties of holding state power without delinking - and
>    Trump's delinking as a con;
>    - the Sanders opening to an idealistic U.S. left, and Big Data's
>    manipulation of white workers;
>    - South African austerity and the need for a united front of labour
>    and social movements;
>    - the evident nostalgia I witnessed for Soviet-era solidarity with
>    Africans;
>    - the lessons of Lenin, Bukharin and Trotsky, especially the critique
>    of USSR state capitalism and self-activity of the working class;
>    - the attraction of Luxemburg's fight against super-exploitation,
>    including race, gender and environment;
>    - hopes vested in the youth generation; and even
>    - how my background studying at the intellectually-bankrupt Wharton
>    School of Finance - Trump's alma mater - drove me to study marxian
>    political economy.
> (Feedback is warmly welcomed.)
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