[WSMDiscuss] [REDlistserve] Exploring indigenous cognitive system -Visions of knowledge systems for life on Earth

Anna Harris anna at shsh.co.uk
Tue Apr 27 10:23:35 CEST 2021

Thank you Ariel. This message contrasting linear thinking with the ‘illiterate’ experiential way of discovering the world, is a welcome breath of fresh air in exposing the gifts and treasures which can be revealed when we follow the child. This ‘way of being’ which is educated out of us in the modern world, parallels my own studies of Christ Consciousness, through the books channeled from Jesus, ‘A Course in Miracles’, and ‘A Course of Love’. This heralds the possibility of bringing an understanding of such diverse ways of thinking and more particularly ‘being’, together towards the creation of the New Earth. 

As Jinan says in the accompanying video, there is no proper place for children in our western culture, as there is no proper place for adults. We are all slaves to some way of thinking which places us in hierarchies of domination within a hostile environment which we have to control or protect ourselves from. The New demands collaboration within the context of a benevolent world based on Love.


> On 27 Apr 2021, at 03:03, Jinan K B via WSM-Discuss <wsm-discuss at lists.openspaceforum.net> wrote:
> Ariel
> 'We'  are the literates and 'they' are the illiterates.
> The impact of literacy on our consciousness is I feel the most
> important but neglected aspect as it is what makes us- the literates
> anthropocentric.
> It is like this. The literates learn the WORD and the illiterates
> learn the WORLD.  Consequently, we are shaped by the word, and
> illiterates are shaped by the world. This produces two ways of being-
> one structured and engineered by the structure of written language-
> linear, sequential, fragmented, and so on. When we talk about language
> it is good to keep in mind that we literates have a very different
> type of language than the illiterates. Illiterates’ language is
> experiential, contextual, and is used as a secondary cognitive source
> whereas for us written language is our primary cognitive source, it is
> more or less conceptual and so on….
> There is two fundamental difference between indigenous cultures and
> modernity. Because there is no readymade knowledge among indigenous
> cultures there is neither the act of teaching nor are they in the
> realm of ‘known’. ‘UNKNOWN’ as cognitive condition totally shapes
> their beingness in one way and us being in the realm of the ‘KNOWN’
> shapes us in a different way. The same is the case with the act of
> teaching.
> The very structure of modern, educated mindset is linear as well as
> anthropocentric because we are trapped into the structure of written
> language. The final frontier where language can take us is to
> understand its limits. The same is the case with conscious reasoning.
> What the written language has instilled in the modern mindset is
> linearity, the tendency for fragmenting and compartmentalizing,
> creation of hierarchy, exclusion, inclusion as an afterthought,
> appropriation and reduction into linearity, establishment of
> superiority complex, constant need to repair and help, deficit
> syndrome, confidence, fear of unknown, control and plan, comparison,
> competition and so on.
> The role and the nature of language have undergone fundamental change
> due to us engaging with the written word.
> Written language totally reshapes our physiological functioning as
> well it rewires the natural cognitive system. As the brain of children
> is very pliable early exposure to written language not only shapes the
> cognitive process but also the very cognitive foundation. We take away
> the two most important things from children by this. The real world as
> a cognitive source as well as the realm of the unknown as the
> cognitive condition- which means cognitive autonomy.
> The most unintended damage that we do to children is by taking on the
> role of the teacher in a most obvious way. We also feel superior to
> children.
> We have lost the subtlety and sensitivity in our need for ‘clarity. In
> fact, we are really not looking for true clarity but we are seeking
> certainty as that would give us a sense of control. We do not know how
> to be with children without imposing ourselves.
> The role and nature of the language of illiterate people are very
> different from the way we use it. Their language is out and out
> experiential, contextual, verb centric due to their process
> orientation and enables them to be established in the present moment.
> Whereas modern man’s language is conceptual, jargonistic, noun
> centric, even egocentric and makes us constantly absent to the
> context.
> We, the ‘modern’ people have a total distrust of our senses and
> experience without ever using it properly.
> (I am sorry that I am not in a position to respond properly as I am in
> a hospital with some minor issues)
> I am sharing a link to a webinar I held last year on Why, What, and
> How Children Learn?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAY_t0Ad0Ew&t=4225s
> Jinan
> jinankb.in
>> On 26/04/2021, Ariel Salleh <arielsalleh7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jinan
>> I’ll look forward to reading your site. One question though - Who is the
>> ‘We' below?
>> It is worth acknowledging that Western/Eurocentric modernist cognitive
>> practices are not monolithic.
>> Most women - North and South, like the marginalised indigenous peoples you
>> mention - already use more holistic cognitive approaches.
>> Maybe have a look at the extended political discussion of non-linear
>> cognition and relational ethics in Ecofeminism as Politics (1997).
>> Best
>> Ariel
>> Ariel Salleh writer/activist, Sydney
>> Founding Member
>> Global Univ. for Sustainability, HK
>> Visiting Professor
>> Nelson Mandela University, SA
>> Email:       arielsalleh7 at gmail.com <mailto:arielsalleh7 at gmail.com>
>> Website:        www.arielsalleh.info <http://www.arielsalleh.info/>
>> Recent
>> 'An Embodied Materialist Sociology' in Bell et al, ed, Cambridge Handbook of
>> Environmental Sociology.
>> 'Holding’ in Camilleri & Guess, ed, Towards a Just and Sustainable Peace.
>> 'A Materialist Ecofeminist Reads the Green Economy’ in Hosseini et al, ed,
>> Transformative Global Studies.
>> Kothari, Salleh, Escobar, Demaria, & Acosta, ed, Pluriverse: A
>> Post-Development Dictionary.
>> On 23 Apr 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jinan K B <jinankb at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jinankb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Friends
>> Inviting for a discussion at academia site to explore the Potential of
>> indigenous cognitive paradigm to address the crisis of modernity. But
>> the catch is whether we, who are linear, fragmented, and
>> compartmentalized would be able to truly grasp the sequential,
>> integral and wholistic nature of indigenous beingness. We are very
>> good at reduction and appropriation and fitting everything into our
>> frame of reference. How would be able to get outside our own matrix?
>> Modern humans are desperately looking for solutions to the mess we
>> have created and unfortunately all that falls within the alienated
>> paradigm of knowing and being. The only way is to understand the
>> paradigm of sustainability created by indigenous communities all over
>> the world. But there is a catch. Would it be possible for the linear,
>> fragmented compartmentalized mindset to comprehend the wholistic
>> aspect of indigenous systems without turning that into the linear
>> format? It is clear from the word ‘systems thinking’ that we have
>> missed the point. This expression is an oxymoron as ‘thinking’ is
>> linear.
>> So, the catch is can we know without thinking?
>> There is a need to revisit why what how children learn the REAL WORLD
>> autonomously to understand how we got fragmented…..
>> Link https://www.academia.edu/s/e36bae7bf3
>> <https://www.academia.edu/s/e36bae7bf3>
>> --
>> Jinan,
>> http://kbjinan.in/ <http://kbjinan.in/> <http://jinankb.in/
>> <http://jinankb.in/>>
>> http://ekfoundation.in/ <http://ekfoundation.in/>
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC80rT8Zj1EE8TrzD3UreYfQ
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC80rT8Zj1EE8TrzD3UreYfQ>
>> www.re-cognition.org
>> https://independent.academia.edu/JinanKodapully
>> 09447121544
> -- 
> Jinan,
> http://kbjinan.in/ <http://jinankb.in/>
> http://ekfoundation.in/
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC80rT8Zj1EE8TrzD3UreYfQ
> www.re-cognition.org
> https://independent.academia.edu/JinanKodapully
> 09447121544
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